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Communication-efficient RLVR

The two-circuit GRPO research hub: weekly status, curated reports, and the full run record.

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2026-08-06

Where the recipe holds, where it breaks, and where the gap is born

The current recipe works at the scale it was built on. At larger models, and more importantly at longer reasoning generations and agentic-style tasks, training collapses late even after large early gains. The main cause is now identified as the gap between the dense sampler and the compressed trainer, and it is being actively worked: pricing each pipeline cut shows the gap rises with cut depth, and a shallow-compressed layout cuts the starting gap by 28 percent.

Recipe holds at small scaleThe smaller model matched its dense control for the full 600-step run at short generation lengths.
Collapse at long horizonsThe larger model gained strongly for 150 steps at 16k generations, then collapsed late and gave the gains back.
Cause identifiedThe sampler-trainer gap is now priced per pipeline cut, and a mitigation run with a shallow-compressed layout is underway.
28% lower
starting gap with the shallow-compressed layout
Gap rises with depth
priced cut by cut, 6.4 to 9.9 nats
Collapse is late
after large early gains at 16k
Latest update: the gap between the dense sampler and the compressed trainer is priced per pipeline cut. A full run with the winning shallow-compressed layout is underway.

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2026-08-06 ATTRIBUTION

Where the gap is born: pricing each pipeline cut

Solo probes that compress one pipeline cut at a time show the sampler-trainer gap rising with cut depth and saturating when cuts are combined, and a shallow-compressed layout starts 28 percent lower than compressing every boundary.

2026-08-05 COLLAPSE

Larger model, longer context: where compressed RLVR collapses

A larger base model trained at 16k generation length gained nine points of held-out accuracy by step 150, then fell below its starting level within twenty steps. The trigger was a feedback loop on generation length, amplified by a sampler-trainer gap the compressed path cannot measure. A controlled pair at smaller scale, with its own dense control, shows the same gap is survivable for 600 steps when generations stay short.

2026-08-05 AGENTIC

Agentic training: where the train-inference gap stops being survivable

The two-circuit method that ran 600 steps without collapse on short single-turn generations was moved to an agentic task, where one trajectory is up to fifty interactions and each is optimised as its own training row. The compressed run stopped completing any task by step six while its dense control held flat. The train-inference gap measures 0.61 against 0.006 dense, and it is already at full size before the first weight update.

2026-08-05 INFERENCE CHECK

Activation compression at inference: PRF and static SVD

A frozen-checkpoint check motivated by the train/inference mismatch. The training circuit keeps 5 percent of boundary activations, so this sweep asks what happens when the same budget is applied during generation across two Qwen3-8B checkpoints.

2026-08-05 QUALITATIVE

What compressed generations look like

Recorded continuations for one shared prompt from Qwen3-8B and Qwen3-8B-Base, shown under PRF and SVD at the least aggressive tested rate and at the 5 percent boundary budget.

2026-07-31 SYSTEM STATUS

Communication-efficient GRPO: the system as it stands

The one-page status of the whole system: the two-circuit design, the exact-k PRF boundary codec (77 of 1536 coordinates per token), the sign(M) anchor, dense-level capability in and out of domain after 600 steps at 95 percent compression, and the train-inference mismatch the design lives with.

2026-07-08 ANALYSIS

Same Rank-1, Different Projectability - What Breaks from GSM8K to Big-Math

Decomposes the two tasks. The rank-1 spatial structure only dents (EVR₁ ~90-96% on both), but forward linear projectability collapses (op ratio 0.90 → 1.00). Reconciled by two timescales: the cumulative direction is stable on both, while raw per-step updates align only on GSM8K (0.86 vs 0.15). Rank-1 is necessary but not sufficient for projection.

2026-07-08 ANALYSIS

Rank-1 Trajectories on a Harder Task - Big-Math vs GSM8K

Re-runs the rank-1 analysis on Big-Math (EXP-58). Rank-1 structure replicates, but the single line's durability degrades on the harder task: ~6× more of the move lands off the line (25% vs 4.5%) and the direction rotates further over the run (|cos| 0.46 vs 0.64).

2026-07-08 VERDICT

Big-Math signed-EMA (α, β) sweep - how much correction, how fresh an anchor?

Seven communication-efficient runs varying the merger's correction weight α and anchor-memory β, plus a dense control. α=0.25 with a fresh anchor (β=0.00) is the stable winner; only the stalest anchor (β=0.90) collapses. Dense stays the ceiling.

2026-07-07 LIVE RESULT

Big-Math Training Reward - Does Weight Projection Help?

Live training on Big-Math: no compressed variant beats dense, and plain stale signed EMA every step (no projection) beats every projection variant. A GSM8K appendix shows the coherent-trajectory contrast that explains why.

2026-07-04 PASS

MOAT Projector Verdict - ANCHOR/FAST from GSM8K to Big-Math

Integration rollup for the projector lanes. Fixed damped-linear wins on GSM8K, but is not adopted as a universal default because Big-Math collapses to do-nothing.

2026-07-05 LIMITED

Math-only Projector Ablation

EXP-61 confirms the harder Math trace is only marginally projectable at the freshest anchor and do-nothing-optimal at operational staleness.

2026-07-03 ANALYSIS

Rank-1 Trajectory Family on the EXP-57 Trace

RELEX-style rank-1 structure replicates, but the paper form is the wrong objective for short-horizon staleness repair. Use rank-1 as position state, not blind extrapolation.

2026-07-04 LIVE PATH

LA-WARMUP-V2 - PP-GRPO at 20/20 Without Collapse

Live training result for communication-efficient pipeline-parallel GRPO at longer cadence, useful as the bridge from offline projection geometry to end-to-end stability.